i'm thinking of my cousin phong right now. he's 27, lol pretty crazy. i remember i was like 11 or something and he told me how to get a girl and i still remember today. he said if you want to get with a girl the best way is to be her friend and then be her best friend. its actually true because my first girlfriend i was just trying to be friends with her at first and then we did end up together. i think getting older its just a lot more complicated than that. in the friendship one person is going to give in and then the other will probably just insist on being friends or already likes someone else and then its just awkward after that. it worked for my cousin though. he's been with her since high school.. she's in pharm school and he's doing something, not sure.. lol.